tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8973162.post8012853843336067562..comments2024-03-27T16:44:31.600+05:30Comments on Stranded in the Present: Absurdities of Caste Genetic Studies - NotesManju Edangamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00474338169829802934noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8973162.post-73622364628719727892014-08-07T23:03:46.812+05:302014-08-07T23:03:46.812+05:30Vokkaliga(Gowda) is the most forward caste in enti...Vokkaliga(Gowda) is the most forward caste in entire south india....dont compare gowdas with other castes plz...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16796084951713141791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8973162.post-79329022171500734622013-04-04T11:53:35.354+05:302013-04-04T11:53:35.354+05:30Keraliate Brahmans are their close related cousin ...<i>Keraliate Brahmans are their close related cousin because of the maternal system of Nairs</i><br /><br />Can that make Nairs a proxy for Namboodiris?<br /><br />I suppose the present day population composition of Nair is 15% and Namboodiri - 1% (approximately).<br /><br />Typically, South Indian Brahmins make up 3% of the native population in other regions.<br /><br />Considering exclusive Sambandham between younger sons of Namboodiris and Nair women, let's say 2/3rd of Namboodiri numbers have become part of Nairs.<br /><br />That is 2/15th of Nairs (~13%) have direct Namboodiri ancestry.<br /><br />That still doesn't make general population of Nairs a proxy for Namboodiri population.<br /><br />Therefore, the assignment of 'upper caste' to Nairs in the study is invalid.Manju Edangamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00474338169829802934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8973162.post-81806505947520626622013-04-03T22:05:11.175+05:302013-04-03T22:05:11.175+05:30Nairs are not the middle order class indeed almost...Nairs are not the middle order class indeed almost all the royals and Landowners comes from them and the Keraliate Brahmans are their close related cousin because of the maternal system of Nairs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8973162.post-20079974221540963102008-04-09T03:54:00.000+05:302008-04-09T03:54:00.000+05:30Wow! 6300 Google hits for scholarly papers by some...Wow! 6300 Google hits for scholarly papers by some Trivedi (in the team), mentioning India and genetics. A direct link could be helpful, really. <BR/><BR/>But you are right: if at least they would abide by the actual varna divisions and not generalize to vague arbitrary fluctuating categories like "high" and "low" castes, that would be more helpful (and less pretentious).Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8973162.post-53643386468513291702008-04-08T19:38:00.000+05:302008-04-08T19:38:00.000+05:30Trivedi et al. is still a good study. If they publ...Trivedi et al. is still a good study. If they publish data for individual castes instead of combined categories(as they have done now) then that would be helpful in datamining.Manju Edangamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00474338169829802934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8973162.post-15895532217096926562008-04-08T04:20:00.000+05:302008-04-08T04:20:00.000+05:30That's pretty interesting: I always got quite conf...That's pretty interesting: I always got quite confused by studies of Indian genetics along caste lines, specially when the info of castes is only given away as a processed output.<BR/><BR/>So we can basically dsregard their conclussions. I'm too often criticising some of the conclusions of genetic studies and most people instead seem to take them as intrinsecally valid. The data (clear data prefereably) is more important actually.Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.com